Cause for conern? Or am I just overthinking?? - Guild Wars Forums

WarcryOfTruth · Jul 01, 2010, 08:12 PM // 20:12

So, the Dragon Festival got me thinking. Think about Nine Rings or Rings of Fortune. First off I should say that I am not trying to troll, or whine or anything, but I know people that go afk on the rings to build either of their Lucky/Unlucky titles. I don't, because I personally don't feel it very deserving when I buy 250 tickets and can earn a title spending less than 1k. Anyway back on topic, this is from the wiki, and its what it says about botting: "a player can activate a program which will farm or leech in-game rewards for the person while he or she sleeps, works, or otherwise goes about life outside of Guild Wars. In this manner, a player can accumulate large amounts of gold or faction with little to no effort." Thinking about that, I understand it says the player must activate a program, however, isn't the concept the same as being afk on rings? You go afk, whether at work, sleeping or on with your life outside of Guild Wars, sure you don't activate a third party program so because of that fact, is it within the Terms & Conditions to be afk on rings? I ask because while you do this, you are receiving "in-game rewards" while effectively being afk, so it makes me wonder if it's okay to do or not. I hope to hear an answer, without being bashed, like I said this was only a question because I am concerned for some friends who do this

Dzjudz · Jul 01, 2010, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Should say: activate a third-party program. Guild Wars itself is not counted obviously

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Just going afk isn't botting.

Nerel · Jul 01, 2010, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Going AFK isn't a third party program nor does it generate any in game benefit... you're losing a not inconsiderable amount of gold in exchange for your title... maxing the lucky title alone by afking Nine Rings should set you back about 2.2 million gold and take over 700 hours of afk time.

You won't be earning any title with your 1k.

You have nothing to be concerned about.

WarcryOfTruth · Jul 01, 2010, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by Nerel

Going AFK isn't a third party program nor does it generate any in game benefit... you're losing a not inconsiderable amount of gold in exchange for your title... maxing the lucky title alone by afking Nine Rings should set you back about 2.2 million gold and take over 700 hours of afk time.

You won't be earning any title with your 1k.

You have nothing to be concerned about.

Well, about the 2.2 million gold, I know some who have gone afk and actually gained tickets, how I don't know but they did, that's why I said 1k can do it just by saving the tickets over and over. But maxing a title DOES count as an in game benefit doesn't it? I mean you're progressing towards a title that after it gets maxed helps you unlock chests and salvaging and what not right? Sure, materialistically you gain nothing but the title that going afk on rings helps you achieve helps you in the long run, other than the fact that it is a title... that's where my concern lies, and why I feel its SIMILAR to botting in terms of what you're doing but different because there is no third party program.

Nerel · Jul 01, 2010, 09:14 PM // 21:14

I'll say it one more time, in very simple terms...

You're not violating the user agreement by merely going AFK.

You're trading gold for lucky/unlucky points, you're buying the title in exactly the same way you'd be getting it if you weren't afk.

Statistically, you will lose money in the long run, you won't max the title and make a profit, you won't break even, you will lose a significant sum of coin. Period.

WarcryOfTruth · Jul 01, 2010, 09:17 PM // 21:17

Ohhhhhh I get it now thank you

. I guess that was just some random fluke and he just had a lucky streak. But anyway, I guess there isn't anything wrong with it since it is implemented in game, I was just thinking that its similar to botting in the sense that one is afk yet still benefiting from something

. Thanks!

Rhamia Darigaz · Jul 01, 2010, 09:27 PM // 21:27

neither; you're underthinking.

Horace Slughorn · Jul 01, 2010, 11:05 PM // 23:05

It's not ok. That's why 9 rings has been around for over 4 years with thousands of people playing it. Every 30 seconds ppl on the rings have to send an e-mail to ncsoft and let them know they aren't afk or else they get banned.

Diab Soule · Jul 02, 2010, 12:36 AM // 00:36

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

neither; you're underthinking.

I agree.

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Lord Dagon · Jul 02, 2010, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by Horace Slughorn

It's not ok. That's why 9 rings has been around for over 4 years with thousands of people playing it. Every 30 seconds ppl on the rings have to send an e-mail to ncsoft and let them know they aren't afk or else they get banned.

lol id hate it if that was the case. and if it was.. well dhuum would be preety common xD.

but yea ur fine if u ak on the rings. as long asu dont bot it(i dont know how or WHY ud bot nine rings but w/e) ur fine.. i mean its afking they cant bann u for afking

Icy The Mage · Jul 02, 2010, 04:53 AM // 04:53

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Originally Posted by Tobi Madera

lol id hate it if that was the case. and if it was.. well dhuum would be preety common xD.

but yea ur fine if u ak on the rings. as long asu dont bot it(i dont know how or WHY ud bot nine rings but w/e) ur fine.. i mean its afking they cant bann u for afking

Dhuum's Scythe actually hits all adjacent afk targets with one sweep.

Jul 01, 2010, 08:12 PM // 20:12	#1
WarcryOfTruth Site Contributor Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta Guild: [LIFE] Profession: P/	Cause for conern? Or am I just overthinking?? So, the Dragon Festival got me thinking. Think about Nine Rings or Rings of Fortune. First off I should say that I am not trying to troll, or whine or anything, but I know people that go afk on the rings to build either of their Lucky/Unlucky titles. I don't, because I personally don't feel it very deserving when I buy 250 tickets and can earn a title spending less than 1k. Anyway back on topic, this is from the wiki, and its what it says about botting: "a player can activate a program which will farm or leech in-game rewards for the person while he or she sleeps, works, or otherwise goes about life outside of Guild Wars. In this manner, a player can accumulate large amounts of gold or faction with little to no effort." Thinking about that, I understand it says the player must activate a program, however, isn't the concept the same as being afk on rings? You go afk, whether at work, sleeping or on with your life outside of Guild Wars, sure you don't activate a third party program so because of that fact, is it within the Terms & Conditions to be afk on rings? I ask because while you do this, you are receiving "in-game rewards" while effectively being afk, so it makes me wonder if it's okay to do or not. I hope to hear an answer, without being bashed, like I said this was only a question because I am concerned for some friends who do this Last edited by WarcryOfTruth; Jul 01, 2010 at 08:18 PM // 20:18..

Jul 01, 2010, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#2
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Should say: activate a third-party program. Guild Wars itself is not counted obviously . Just going afk isn't botting. Last edited by Dzjudz; Jul 01, 2010 at 08:54 PM // 20:54..

Jul 01, 2010, 08:57 PM // 20:57	#3
Nerel Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia, what you want my home address? Guild: [CAT] Profession: Mo/	Going AFK isn't a third party program nor does it generate any in game benefit... you're losing a not inconsiderable amount of gold in exchange for your title... maxing the lucky title alone by afking Nine Rings should set you back about 2.2 million gold and take over 700 hours of afk time. You won't be earning any title with your 1k. You have nothing to be concerned about.

Jul 01, 2010, 09:14 PM // 21:14	#5
Nerel Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia, what you want my home address? Guild: [CAT] Profession: Mo/	I'll say it one more time, in very simple terms... You're not violating the user agreement by merely going AFK. You're trading gold for lucky/unlucky points, you're buying the title in exactly the same way you'd be getting it if you weren't afk. Statistically, you will lose money in the long run, you won't max the title and make a profit, you won't break even, you will lose a significant sum of coin. Period.

Jul 01, 2010, 09:17 PM // 21:17	#6
WarcryOfTruth Site Contributor Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta Guild: [LIFE] Profession: P/	Ohhhhhh I get it now thank you . I guess that was just some random fluke and he just had a lucky streak. But anyway, I guess there isn't anything wrong with it since it is implemented in game, I was just thinking that its similar to botting in the sense that one is afk yet still benefiting from something . Thanks!

Jul 01, 2010, 09:27 PM // 21:27	#7
Rhamia Darigaz Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2008	neither; you're underthinking.

Jul 01, 2010, 11:05 PM // 23:05	#8
Horace Slughorn Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2008 Guild: Experientia Docet [OHX], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA], We Gat Dis [HRUU] Profession: W/	It's not ok. That's why 9 rings has been around for over 4 years with thousands of people playing it. Every 30 seconds ppl on the rings have to send an e-mail to ncsoft and let them know they aren't afk or else they get banned.